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A much overdue update for Modern in MN

by Splatgirl posted on 09-18-2005 21:36 last modified 12-23-2006 22:17 —

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Yes, we're still building a house. My apologies for the lack of updates...

Some of the things we've been working on in the last month (and a half, gack!) -Furring out window jambs with EPS. This took a while, but all the interior window openings are now set for drywall. Our windows have a built in drywall channel and all of the jambs will be finished with a drywall return. I'm looking forward to the clean, no-trim look this will provide. -Bituminous peel and stick membrane affixed to all of the exterior window openings. Although water intrusion is significantly less of an issue with an ICF home since there's nothing to rot and very little moisture migrates through the 8" of concrete and two layers of EPS, we still need to ensure the water tightness of the window in the opening. Dealing with long strips of super sticky membrane while up on a ladder made me wish we had built a shorter house with fewer windows! While not physically demanding, this chore did require a lot of patience and wrestling of ladders in inconvenient places. -Site clean up. We spent about a day just picking up scrap lumber and miscellaneous debris and loading it all into a 15 yard dumpster. While it pained us to be throwing away all that lumber, I kept reminding myself that the overall amount of waste generated by our project was much less than if we were using more conventional methods. Clean up is boring but necessary, and the site is now pretty much ready for finish grading, the driveway, and eventually landscaping. Right now it's hard to imagine anything beyond the giant weed farm we've got. -Gas line, phone line and electricity inside the house! It took four months and more than a few unpleasant phone calls, but we've finally got gas service to the house. Ironically, the week after this was done, the power company came out to transfer our service from the temporary box to the interior panel, and accidentally cut the new gas line! The result of that was a somewhat comical (and as I understand it, routine) production that involved the police, fire department and the gas company who came out to repair the line. I couldn't help but laugh. -We've finally gotten a start on the siding. The order of operations here begins with moving each of the 4 x 8 sheets inside the house to give two coats of paint, and then moving outside to cut and drill for installation. Not a fast process by any means but so far it looks pretty cool and we're finding the HardiPanel easier than expected to work with, aside from the fact that they're big and heavy. I'll probably be much less positive about the whole siding endeavor once we're on to the higher up sections. My frustration with the plumbers persists. They got the rough in to about 60% finished and then didn't show up for several weeks until I called and inquired WTF?? At that point I was informed that they were under the impression that all that remained was piping for the shower heads in the master bath, and that they were waiting for me to frame the ceiling in there. This had been done and pointed out to their guy well prior to their last visit, and there were many, many things incomplete or incorrect so obviously they were misinformed. Apparently they're still suffering from an inability to communicate and I'm suffering the fallout from their choice to employ a chronic alcoholic and put him in charge of my job. The whole thing is so unfortunate because the owner and his office staff are absolutely excellent and easy to work with but apparently they have not figured out that Mr. ETOH is not only not doing the work, he's not accurately representing the status of the jobs he's responsible for. Electrical work is still in progress and still frustrating. As I've said, this is being done by one of my family members, or more specifically, I'm paying his employee what amounts to time and materials for the work, (which, incidentally, is nothing like our original agreement), and I'm at the bottom of their priority list to boot. To make matters worse, things NEVER happen according to the schedule said relative lays out, and I'm lucky if I get 8 hours worth of work from them in a week. At this rate, I figure our cost is actually double or more what we'd be incurring if I had just hired a stranger, so I'm pretty pissy about the whole thing but I'm letting it ride since I'm not ready for drywall yet anyway. In between all of this stuff, I've been hard at work on the phone as usual. The one drywall contractor that's bothered to get back to us did so with a $26.5 K bid which is WAY more than we budgeted, but I suspect the other guys I'm meeting with this week will be similar because of the amount of detail work our job requires. That I'm insisting on smooth ceilings in the few areas we're using them doesn't help. We're going to have to get creative to find the money in our budget to deal with this. After weeks and weeks of agonizing, searching and sending out drawings, I think I've finally found a steel fabricator for our stair and railing. I'll be meeting with him this week and I desperately hope he works out since were way behind on getting this going. I still haven't made a decision on our garage door. We need an 18' x 7' door, and with frosted, insulated glass, a full view door becomes insanely expensive. Since we don't have the 6 or 7 K in our budget for this, I've had to reconsider and am still weighing the pros and cons of a door with one frosted view section (still more expensive than I'd like) vs. the more commercial looking corrugated door with the narrow oval windows (cheaper and not as cool but may go with the overall look better anyway). Another option would be to get a full-view door with clear glass and then apply a frosted film, but I haven't been able to verify that the adhesive on these films will stay stuck in our cold cold. Reviewing my last post, I found it difficult not to get bummed about the small amount of progress we seem to have made in the last month and a half. It's on the verge of fall and we thought we'd be getting ready to move in around now but as it stands, the end appears to be just as far as it was a couple of months ago. We've been faced with some difficult events in the other areas of our lives including the death of a very good friend recently, and I think we've both really been struggling to maintain focus and keep up the momentum with our project. It just seems so insignificant and selfish in comparison with the other more serious events in the world that we can't help but pause and consider. I forgot to mention this, but I spent a few hours with a rented jackhammer extracting concrete from around the shower drains in our master bath to accomodate the drain and waterproofing system I'll be using. It's hard to tell, but this picture also shows the sloped mud bed I constructed as well as the bench seat that will get skinned with plywood and then drywall prior to applying the waterproofing membrane. This is the east wall with the first course of siding installed (it's dusty so that's why it looks a little weird). The dark band around the bottom is the acrylic stucco that I applied over the EPS to bridge the gap between grade level and the siding. (There will be a partial course of cement board below the one you see). Installing the stucco was another thing I overlooked in my review. Not difficult, per se, but a little tricky to get the hang of and physically demanding work due to the materials and the location. Just for fun. This is the sink for my guest bath that I brought in to get a fix on counter top height, etc. I guess my Little Kitty Angela approves, since she immediately plunked down in it for a nap.
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Busy

Posted by Ed at 09-19-2005 07:44

Sounds like you're going to be all warm and weather-tight by the first frost. And it is impressive that you're doing so much work yourself. To be honest, I have yet to pick up a hammer on my project. But I know that day is coming- when I will be deep in the throes of flooring, tiling, painting, lighting, trimming and perhaps even roofing. I was roaming through the aisles of Home Depot yesterday thinking about all of these tasks, the fact that I have a full time job, and the fact that I don't have a car large enough to carry all of these materials. Anyway, I'm impressed that you've had the physical, mental and financial wherewithall to be able to take on so much of the work.

Pictures, please!

vacation?

Posted by Splatgirl at 09-27-2005 21:36

Honestly, one of our biggest frustrations has been the lack of avaliable time. While I am able to devote myself full-time to the tasks of construction, there is only so much I can do by myself. Much of what we've got now is two person (or more) work so the going is slow since Vern spends his weekdays making the money :) Hopefully you've got either a lot of willing friends (with the promise of guest privlidges in the Hamptons, I'd hope so!), a lot of vacation time, or the ability to take a leave of absence from your job.

I also can't imagine navigating any part of this process without a pickup truck. If you're serious about getting hands on, it might be worth your while to spend a couple of thousand dollars on a used one and call it a construction expense. I'd have spent that several times over in delivery fees for stuff I've easily will-called and hauled myself.

Good luck Ed. Your house is going to be amazing!

you should write a book

Posted by cdrmemphis at 09-26-2005 15:19

Your entries are so detailed and humorous! I love your posts. We've bought our lot, come up with some preliminary plans, and are now going over the ideas with our potential contractor. We are trying to do the ICF's and alot of the things that you used in your house- just got to see where the numbers come in. What manufacturer did you use for your in slab heating? Electric or hydro?

I guess it is time I get a blog started of my own as we begin this process.....

windows

Posted by cdrmemphis at 09-26-2005 15:35

Are your windows casements? I like the way they look.

Why acrylic stucco versus traditional plaster stucco? Pros and cons? Costs?

details

Posted by Splatgirl at 09-27-2005 22:05

It's a hydronic radiant system. We're using a 96% efficient Weil-Mclain natural gas boiler with an indirect water heater for domestic hot water.

Most of the windows are awning, with the exception of the three egress which are casement. Acrylic stucco vs. cement-based: My understanding is that the acrylic product is easier to manage in that it comes pre-mixed in bags; just add water. That the acrylic system uses a fiberglass mesh instead of metal lathe makes it easier as well,since this is just embedded in the scratch coat instead of having to be attatched as a separate step.

Thanks for the kind words and please do start a blog to share your process. I think the more we can share that de-mystifies what is involved in stepping outside the construction box, and describes the process as experienced by real, regular people, the better and more accessible modernism becomes.

I feel your pain

Posted by Adam Burke at 10-31-2005 17:57

Boy, I feel your pain with the subcontractors! Something about plumbing and electrical work seems to attract the most unbusiness-like humans on the planet. I'm yet to find either that I really like. Some of the ones I've paid more for tend to work out better, but it's hard to pay $80 per hour vs $40. I had one electrician, recommended by the plumber who showed up and turned out to be about 90 years old and shaking. So he brought his toothless meth addict understudy with him, who was sitting there polishing his knife on his break. They did the WORST work possible, including drilling through to the exterior of the house in an attempt to run a line to the basement. They didn't patch or acknowledge this new hole either. Even though they didn't finish, I didn't ask them to return.

Keep yer chin up! The sense of satisfaction and accomplishment will be incredible when it's all said and done. You're doing an amazing thing.

hardi panels

Posted by Laura Montealegre at 11-12-2005 20:59

hi there - seen some of the photos; they look terrific! did you install the hardi panels just over the waterproofing membrane with plywood below? did you use some kind of channel for the horizontal joints? what about the vertical joints? how do you seal? thanks