because I'm both lazy and bad at math, what is the final price using that bid?

I'm guesstimating that sips and labor come in around 30k? I have no idea how competetive that is for other sips companies but I know ezekiel has a nice breakdown on his blog.

have you received any estimates for the windows? sorry if these have been posted. I'm trying to follow so many builds and I get confused easily.

btw, so your roof slopes towards the atrium. how are you going to drain all that rain so your atrium does not turn into an aquarium?

Wall Panels (4”) $18,990.00 R-24 Roof Panels (6-1/2”) $11,400.00 R-40 Installation Material $2,450.00 Delivery $3,900.00, 2 Truck Other Beams $N/A Installation (optional) $9,450.00

About $46,000 total. Add $1,200 for 4.5" panels which give you an R-26 insulation.

This works out to about $16.00 per sq. ft.

From Thermal bronze powdercoat finish (I need to get the anodized finish upcharge.) windows: $25,000 Doors: $15,000 Install of atrium units: $2400 Tax: $3500

From Ram Industries Clear anodized finish windows: $18,000 doors: $23,000 (subcontracted from Fleetwood) Tax: $3500

Obviously, getting the doors from Thermal in clear anodized and the windows from Ram is an attractive option. However, Thermal would only want to install the doors in this situation and installing 6'6"x12'4" window units in a steel frame woun't be easy.

Have you considered any other roofs (other than SIPs)? Do you have a budget of any kind that we could see?

Our construction budget goal is $92 per sq. ft. It is becomming clear that somethings will have to be cut, but right now I am just waiting for bids. Both builders putting together bids know what we are trying to do and they are trying to find ways to make it work.

As for the roof, it is interesting you should ask. Thermocore wrote very prominantly on the bid that they were not responsible for any engineering. We had given them lots of engineering stuff for headers over windows and doors and had even told them where the point loads were, but they didn't add any of that structure to their bid. I called to ask about the roof and they said their 6.5" panels could only span 10'. We have lots of 14' spans. BUT, that was based on midwestern snow and we are in Dallas. BUT, Guy thought he remembered that the load figures were not that different. I gotta call the engineer. But then the guy at Thermocore I talked to said that only the master bedroom and kids play area would need extra support. Am I frustrated, yes. I now have to work out another contract with the engineer to figure this out. As of yet, I have not considered other roofing systems.

I get it, the budget. Numbers for different things. Yes. So tired these days it takes a while for words to process. We did have an original budget for about 50 elements, but now that we are this far along, I am just waiting to see what happens and then cut back where needed.

The engineer is going to check out the 8.5" panel specs, but the 6.5" panels won't span the distance we need without extra support. One option would have been running a beam from load-bearing wall to load bearing wall around the second floor about 3'6" out from the atrium. That would have worked everywhere but the master bedroom where there would have been no elegant way to support a 26' long beam. This would have required lots of reworking of the framing plans for the second floor as this beam would have run up in the walls that make up the hallways. I guess it is not a terrible option, but, given the roof panels and their installation would have cost roughly $15,000, ringing the house with 2x12s and filling the gaps with insulation is not a terrible option. Structurally, we would only need 2x10s, but the new energy codes will probably force us to have more insulation than 2x10s will allow. Anyway, I should know the answer on Monday.

We could always gain a little insulation with the 4.5" panels. Any if the walls can fit on one truck, we might save another $2000. We'll see.