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How we (may have) beat the system.

by Jeffrey Rous posted on 11-16-2004 21:48 last modified 11-16-2004 21:51

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The special zoning ordinance is pretty strict, but we found ways to work within it... Or, at least we think we did.

Of all the zoning restrictions, the roof pitch and exterior materials are the hardest to work within. When working on the square house plan (40'x40' square with a 12'x12' open air atrium in the middle), it looked inevitable that a gable running around the perimeter would be the best option. But from the ground, it looked like a mansard style roof (my overall least favorite roof style - Taco Bell anyone?). Then Guy suggested an inverted hip. That is, a shed roof that runs around the perimeter and slopes toward the impluvium (fancy Roman name for the hole in the roof over an interior courtyard). From the outside, it would look like a flat roof.

It looked like there would be a problem with the second floor windows looking too low compared to the roof this way (the outside wall 5'5" higher than the atrium wall and ceiling, but Mark fixed that by suggesting a vaulted ceiling on the interior (easily done with SIPS). This allows for some high windows. The bigger problem was that this put the outside wall at 23'6", 6" too high for the zoning restrictions.

One benefit of having to deal with zoning restrictions instead of a architectural review board is that a building official is supposed to only look at the letter of teh law. We are not really keeping with the spirit of the zoning which is to create a neighborhood of houses which look old. Never-the-less, I am confident that our house will fit in nicely in terms of scale and massing.

We went in to see the building official before choosing between the longHOUSE and the squareHOUSE options. After looking at a section that showed the inverted hip he said, and I paraphrase, "Well, no matter how you write the restrictions, someone will find a loophole and it looks like you found one."

When we bring in the plans for official approval, I can't help but wonder if there won't be a new interpretation of one of the restrictions somewhere. We'll see.

As for the exterior. Hardie panels and corrugated galvalume are out. So that leaves brick and stucco. We went from stucco to brick because we heard from several brick sellers that a house could be bricked for $4 per sq. ft. with king size brick and $5.50 for modular brick. HA! We got a couple of bids. Try $8.50 per sq. ft. We have since gone back to stucco. Hand troweled with integral color is under $6 per sq. ft.

I am sorry to see the brick go. If you check out the designSTUDIO page here at LiveModern, you can see the squareHOUSE in brick. Sweet.

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zoning review

Posted by Gregory La Vardera at 11-18-2004 15:48

how soon till your review? I'm anxious!

Soon, but that is when everything will happen

Posted by Jeffrey Rous at 11-18-2004 22:20

I have been promised a set of plans to take to the City by Monday. The City, in turn, says that the zoning review ususally takes one day.

There are two issues that I foresee being a problem. First, there is the fact that our house looks like it has a flat roof, even though it doesn't. I say there is a 5%-10% chance they will make trouble over that. We comply with the zoning, however, they could look at the wall height as the way to try to stop us. "The maximum allowable wall height for the main building or structure is 2 1/2 stories with 23' to the top plate of the second story..." We have the top of the top plate for the second story at 23'. However, the thickness of the roof makes the wall closer to 23'9".

The bigger problem is a window box we have over the front entry (you can see it on the designSTUDIO image of the squareHOUSE). It projects about 18" from the main plane of the house. Putting a 5:12 pitch on that would look stupid. Of course, we can always specify the roof for the window box as a 2'x8' piece of plywood that would eventually be destroyed in "a storm" but I'd rather not have to deal with that.

Other than that, I don't see anywhere where the code can be "interpreted" to stop us.... but I am probably just being naive.

I'll certainly post it when we have an answer... either way it comes out.

And just to rant, I can't believe they are making us put in a fireplace. The temp. only drops below freezing a couple of times per year!

Did you get an answer yet?

Posted by Sara R. Sage at 12-08-2004 14:00

I've been checking your blog for an update on the zoning decision. Has anything happened yet?

Sara p.s. I love your floorplan